FengShuiBundi

Where's the Crystal Wave?

ratatass

Wow, overlooked that skill completely.

Thank you!

The only thing I don't like with it is the long recharge, but then again If we have two players, and it has to be the warriors carrying it in the front line, applying it. 15 Energy is a lot for a Warrior. Even with a fairly low attribute level - it will still trigger Fragility, which is the main damage dealer.

Back to the drawing board. Thanks for replying. I appreciate it.

You unlocked another whole can of worms in the Air Magic and Earth Magic spell line. great, gives me something to do!

Insomnia

haven't ever tried a mass fragility (or soul barbs) combo before, but isn't it dangerous to rely on one character to cast fragility and to be responsable for the entire cyclus?

Freyas

I'd recommend having at least 2 players with Fragility, in case one goes down or gets their Fragility interrupted or removed. Fragility can do massive damage, but if it's removed, the conditions will be annoying, but won't do all that much on their own. Having a second player with Fragility helps the chances that you'll be able to keep it up on your target even if the other team has some hex removal or interrupts.

Crystal wave can be excellent in combination with Fragility as well. It gives very nice spike damage, both the damage from crystal wave, plus damage from fragility for having all of the conditions removed- you can often easily take over half a characters life away with this skill so long as they've got several conditions. It also lets you trigger fragility more by reapplying all of those conditions that you just removed.

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Cain

I'd suggest dropping two Warriors and going with a Ranger and a Necro instead. Give the Ranger Hunter's Shot, Pin Down, Incendairy Arrows, Apply Poison and Concussion Shot. For the Necro, bring Enfeeble, Rotting Flesh and Tainted Flesh. This way you have a much better range of conditions. If you rely on three Warriors, then it's very easy to be shut down with skills like Shadow of Fear, Faintheartedness, Shield of Deflection, etc. Incendairy Arrows + Fragility = sick damage. With with high Illusion and low Wilderness Survival you can trigger Fragility over 12 times and have the target constantly burning for the durataion of the preperation. Trust me, I know from experience.

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FengShuiBundi

I'd suggest finding a way to stick in Crystal Wave. Perhaps make a hammer build w/ earth specced secondary. They can deal some weakness and keep up knockdown. They often use aftershock to deal knockdown. You could swap it for crystal wave if you want.

Just give it a shot. It allows for Fragility to be used twice... gives nice spike damage, and allows for a reapplication of the conditions.

Yeah, it's hard, but with a dedicated team, you could really do some damage.

walder

At Fire Magic 2, the burning condition will last 1 second. This will maximize your damage but you will have to recast quite a bit. Definitely worth it though.

Also, Incendiary Arrows, the elite Ranger skill with 0 Wilderness Survival will cover the burning condition if you want to spread out to 2 targets at a time.

If you want to go with this type of Ranger load up on damage skills as the other conditions are covered by the rest of your team. Get Concussion Shot in there. And Bring Lightning Reflexes, this skill is great for this build because it doubles your damage.

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ratatass

Very good input! Can't believe you took the time to read it!!!

I like the suggestions!!

1. Definetly two Fragility casters.
2. Changing out maybe 1-2 Warriors, I like having at least two in the group. But I will work on it.
3. Incendiary Arrows is a a skill I overlooked again.
4. Spreading the conditions output with a Necro and a Ranger.
5. I liked the idea of inducing the conditions at some distance too. I find it hard as Warrior to stay on target, since you are running after them all the time.

6. For Crystal Wave to have any effect I have to be close to the target. So it has to be one of the Warriors Carrying it.

It's is weird how lower your attribute in a particular skill - increases your damage output under certain conditions.

I will edit this post with my new build...shortly.

edit:

Guild Wars Team Builder v1.04b
TEAM NAME Fragility
BATTLE AREA TOMBS
BUILD DESCRIPTION

Fragility centered for damage. Two players carrying Fragility, All conditions possible induced on target by players.

3 Monks with Firestorms to encounter Warrior Trains, basically scare them away or if they stay, they die. All monks have different Healing methods. One Monk is smiting damage, with Retribution, Shield of Judgment.

Conditions Induced are Bleeding (Warrior) , Dazed (Ranger), Weakness (a few times), Burning (from Mesmer and Ranger), Posion (Ranger), (Disease (Warrior/Necro)),
Crippled(Warrior), Blindness (Hammer Warrior), Deep Wound (Warriors).


TEAM PLAYERS

MONK TEAM
Player 1
Monk/Elementalist
Fire Storm , Healing Touch, Glyph of Lesser Energy, Healing Seed, Orison of Healing, Word of Healing, Signet of Devotion, Healing Breeze
Healing Prayers 11 + 2
Divine Favor 11 + 2
Fire Magic 8 + 0
Primary Healer (Ratatass I)


Player 2
Monk/Elementalist
Fire Storm, Shield of Regeneration, Reversal of Fortune, Signet of Devotion, Convert Hexes, Life Bond, Mend Ailment, Glyph of Lesser Energy
Protection Prayers 10 + 2
Divine Favor 11 + 2
Fire Magic 10 + 0
Primary Protection Healer. Spamming Heals, Signet of Devotion, Reversal of Fortune = damage +44 healt from DF.
Emergency and Self Heal - Shield Of Regeneration, Reversal of Fortune, Signet of Devotion All spells cast, get high Divine Favor bonus.


Player 3
Monk/Elementalist
Fire Storm, Signet of Devotion, Restore Life, Shield of Judgment, Retribution,
Scourge Healing, Glyph of Lesser Energy, Divine Healing
Healing Prayers 1 + 0
Smiting Prayers 10 + 1
Divine Favor 11 + 2
Fire Magic 10 + 0
Smiting / Healer Casts Retribution and Shield of Judgment on Focus Fire Target Tries to cast as many Scourge, Healing spells he can on multiple targets - preferably soft targets. Emergency heal for monk group in Divine Healing, if under AoE or he himself is under heavy focus fire.(227 +44) = 267.


FRAGILITY TEAM

Player 4
Ranger/Mesmer
Fragility , Concussion Shot, Lightning Reflexes, Hunter's Shot, Pin Down, Incendiary Arrows, Apply Poison, Mantra of Persistence
Marksmanship 11 + 2
Expertise 8 + 0
Illusion Magic 11 + 0

Fragility carrier 1, If Dazed goes in…Lucky kill.


Player 5
Warrior/Monk
Restore Life, Sprint, Strength of Honor, Frenzy, Axe Rake, Executioner's Strike,
Penetrating Blow, Crystal Wave
Axe Mastery 11 + 1
Strength 10 + 0
Healing Prayers 1 + 0
Smiting Prayers 10 + 0

Damage Dealer and Resser,
Elite skill from Elementalist line/ Crayzy but it adds to the group.



Player 6
Warrior/Necromancer
Rotting Flesh, Gash, Galrath Slash, Virulence, Frenzy, Hamstring, Sever Artery
Enfeeble.
Swordsmanship 12 + 0
Strength 11 + 0
Death Magic 6 + 0

Condition inducer. You don't want Virulence to go for too long, you would like The Fragility from the mesmer to hit, more often. Induces, Bleeding, Cripple,Deep wound, Disease, Sickness. With support from Mesmer - focus target will go down quick.


Player 7
Warrior/Monk
Backbreaker, Heavy Blow, Mighty Blow, Holy Strike, Banish, Belly Smash, Distracting Blow, Restore Life
Hammer Mastery 12 + 0
Smiting Prayers 12 + 0

Hammer. Use Back breaker to get the target down, so I't cant run. Uses distracting blow on enemy teams resser. Use Holy strike after knock down. Use Belly Smash, when knokced down Heavy Blow works because of weakness induced by Axe Warrior and Necro . Induces another condition, Blindness. More to do for the Mesmers Fragility.


Player 8
Mesmer/Elementalist
Conjure Flame, Mark of Rodgort, Glyph of Lesser Energy, Energy Drain, Power Drain, Ether Feast, Fragility, Inspired Enchantment
Illusion Magic 12 + 2
Inspiration Magic 10 + 0
Earth Magic 2 + 0
Fire Magic 8 + 0

Fragility Build - will do enormous damage, too high to count with the 3 Warriors doing damage. Inspired Enchantment to take away healing seed or shield of deflection or whatever enchantment on target. Don't need higher Fire, should almost be lower to trigger fragility more often. Ranger sets target on fire every 1 seconds.

another edit:

I have Teamspeak , and I hope that at least 4-5 of my friends can be on it. I hope...

What do you think about me the Monk beeing a target caller ? What would be the problems with that ?

another edit: I should have read this thread first about fragility - would have picked up crystal wave :http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ight=fragility

walder

I don't think a Fragility team build can be pulled off without everyone on Teamspeak or Ventrilo so keep in mind that on paper you might be able to have a huge damage output, in the actual game it will be a lot harder to pull off.

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